As with Nightfall, players have discovered the name of the next campaign before the official announcement. But the first thing I noticed was the lore implications for this.
Utopia. What, in all the history of Guild Wars, does that make you think of?
... on the fourth day, Saul emerged from among the trees to see what he thought was a hallucination—a city of massive towers reaching into the heavens. It was a sight to behold, alabaster and golden filigree. This was a place of purity, a place where a man such as Saul could begin anew...
Janthir, city of the Mursaat.
Is it possible that Janthir is a continent off the coast of the Maguuma (or possibly to the north of Kryta, across Giant's Basin), a larger island than we first may have thought?|||Too early for speculations, although I will say that the name is probably correct. Both Factions and Nightfall were discovered in this same way, so unless ANet got smart and layed a false trail, it is probably right. No harm in at least using it as a codename.
I will throw in, however, that the Mursaat are almost all named after Greco-Roman gods, or words for finery (silver, gold, magnificent, etc).|||Quote:
Too early for speculations, although I will say that the name is probably correct. Both Factions and Nightfall were discovered in this same way, so unless ANet got smart and layed a false trail, it is probably right. No harm in at least using it as a codename.
I will throw in, however, that the Mursaat are almost all named after Greco-Roman gods, or words for finery (silver, gold, magnificent, etc).
Hmm, so where does the concept of Utopia fall into history? Who first used it? Perhaps that could give us some clues as to the campaigns cultural "theme", like Asia for Factions and Africa for Nightfall.|||Why do you say Nightfall was discovered like this? guildwarsnightfall.com does not exist
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Utopia seems to come from the greek. However, there are too many places/religions/cultures and such that were considered utopias.
Like the Garden of Eden, Shangri-La, Atlantis, Plato's Republic model or even Sparta (as a militaristic utopia)
Considering the word is greek, the clue could be right there. Either a greek like culture or a mediterranean like world/continent/setting|||Quote:
Hmm, so where does the concept of Utopia fall into history? Who first used it? Perhaps that could give us some clues as to the campaigns cultural "theme", like Asia for Factions and Africa for Nightfall.
Utopia is Greek
Utopia (from Greek: οὐ no, and τόπος, place, i.e. "no place" or "place that does not exist")
EDIT: Degas beat me to it
|||Quote:Why do you say Nightfall was discovered like this? guildwarsnightfall.com does not exist
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Utopia seems to come from the greek. However, there are too many places/religions/cultures and such that were considered utopias.
Like the Garden of Eden, Shangri-La, Atlantis, Plato's Republic model or even Sparta (as a militaristic utopia)
Considering the word is greek, the clue could be right there. Either a greek like culture or a mediterranean like world/continent/setting
It does exist, just unused. ArenaNet registered it a while before they announced the name so as to reserve it, and the name was found out by players a while before the press release via the US Trademark & Patent office.|||I think it's rather suspicious that the root of Utopia means "does not exist". Like I said, this could just be ANet dropping false leads. Although, why they'd commit resources to that, I don't know.|||Quote:
...in its most common and general positive meaning, refers to an imaginary, ideal civilization, which may range from a city to a world, regarded to be attainable in the future by some.
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Many works of utopian fiction depict an outsider, a time-traveler or a foreigner, who can be shown the features of the society...
Sounds like some of the speculation in this thread
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=438018
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Finding utopia ...One way would be to look for the earthly paradise -- for a place like Shangri-La, hidden in the Tibetan mountains...
So there could be an hidden entrance to Utopia in the GW world...
Perhaps this entrance is hidden by the Mursaat...|||Quote:
I think it's rather suspicious that the root of Utopia means "does not exist". Like I said, this could just be ANet dropping false leads. Although, why they'd commit resources to that, I don't know.
Ah, but the root of the name is "no place" or "place that does not exist"... this can be interpreted as "unseen".|||Well the Mursaat certainly have Greek names. Though, I have to admit my biases towards this because I really would like to see the Mursaat again. That is one big loose end that has bothered me since Prophecies.
I think we should just keep an open mind right now though. It could literally be anything.
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