Saturday, April 21, 2012

What is the Guild Wars Realm?

We have Tyria and Cantha .... but ..... they are contenants on what planet/realm?

Any thoughts or evidence?|||The planet itself is named "Tyria" as well, as far as I know.|||I dont think that was thought about when GW first came out... the land of Tyria was at first look all there was. Perhaps the planet/realm will get a name as more continents are 'discovered'|||after all, the world, minus the monsters, would only take about 3-4 hours to walk across, and thats only about the same size as a large country, so there must be more to be found.|||The planet itself is named Tyria. Yes there must be other continents but at the moment I don't think that the Lore Forum is considering the continents on a real world scale. It's just about the one area where everyone accepts it as just a game mechanic.|||We have no evidence Tyria is, in fact a Planet. It could simply be some kind of plane of existence; we assume that it is a Planet since that's all we know it could be. However, given the nature of the Guild Wars universe and the fact it's set in a Fantasy setting, other possibilities do exist.|||Quote:








We have Tyria and Cantha .... but ..... they are contenants on what planet/realm?

Any thoughts or evidence?




There is plenty of evidence, besides the simple fact of NPC's talking about two distinct continents and developers refering to them as such, you can also travel from one to the other on a ship. Not a spaceship, not a starship, a seafaring vessel.

Also there are healthy and active trade routes between the two, as well as other socioeconomic relations and emmigrations.

There is absolutely no doubt that they are on the same planet and continuity.


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We have no evidence Tyria is, in fact a Planet. It could simply be some kind of plane of existence; we assume that it is a Planet since that's all we know it could be. However, given the nature of the Guild Wars universe and the fact it's set in a Fantasy setting, other possibilities do exist.




That's a bit premature don't you think? There is an abundance of evidence to support the Tyrian planet. First off, we have Gaile and other developers publically saying that Tyria is both a continent and the namesake of the planet. The Manuscripts speak of Lord Odran travelling to different planets via the Mists. Ships are able to sail and there is a compass (which means there must be a magnetic north) which also leads credience to the fact that this is a planet. In areas such as the Ring of Fire, there are upswellings of magma from beneath the surface of the planet (lava). Finally, the presence of a moon means that this must be a planet. A flat "plane of existance" would not have the necessary gravitational pull to keep a moon in orbit as it would not be spinning and would not be a ball.

One last undisputable piece of evidence: gravity. The fact that we can stand on the ground without floating off into space proves, for a fact, that Tyria is a spinning planet with a gravitational force keeping things on the ground.

Now, is the planet Tyria in the same universe as Earth? That can be disputed, and probably never proven or disproven. The Manuscripts do talk of the "mutiverse", which suggests parallel universes do exist.

That is largely irrelevent though, as it does not change the planetary fact that is Tyria.|||then it would be incorrect to call prophecy made characters "Tyrians" while the factions characters "Canthans" as Gaile and the rest kept mentioning. since everyone are Tyrians, there're only the distinction of Ascalonians, Krytans, Canthans etc.|||Quote:








then it would be incorrect to call prophecy made characters "Tyrians" while the factions characters "Canthans" as Gaile and the rest kept mentioning. since everyone are Tyrians, there're only the distinction of Ascalonians, Krytans, Canthans etc.




Not techinically. When working with symantics like that, you have to take context into account. Because Tyria is a planet and a namesake continent, it is important to consider how you are using the word "Tyrian".

In the event of an encounter with extraplanetary or extradimensional beings, the people who inhabit the planet Tyria would all be considered "Tyrians", however when interacting with people from the same planet, it is fine to divide that into further categories and say if you are from the continent Tyria you are a Tyrian, while if you are from the continent Cantha, you are a Canthan.

It's all about the context.

Think of it this way: If I live in New York City in New York state (which I don't, I live in Pennsylvania, but let's suppose for the sake of argument), I am a New Yorker, both by city and by state; however, someone else who lives in Albany, New York, is still considered a "New Yorker" because they are still from the state of New York. In the scenario of the two of us meeting, because we are both "New Yorkers", we default to the next classification which seperates us--our respective cities--making me the contextual New Yorker in that situation.

Understand? It's all rather confusing, but if you think about it in terms of "levels" of classification and not just the title itself, it makes more sense.|||So Tyria is a continent and the name of the Planet? That's like saying we live in Earth, Earth. :p

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