The Charr summoned powerful magic to cause the Searing of Ascalon - a byproduct of which was the destruction of most wildlife in Ascalon, as well as giant crystals seen throughout that realm.
A previous discussion likened the crystals of ascalon to the "sand" of the crystal desert. <unfortunately, i am unable to find it at the moment. QA, any ideas?>
This brought me to the following conjecture:
Could the Margonites have caused the first "searing" of the crystal desert? and if so, then how did the Charr discover the same magic to do the same to Ascalon?
<this is a discussion, so constructive ideas with adequate citation would be appreciated>|||The crystal desert was, I believe, created in the war that banished Abaddon the first time. It seems logical that the magic causing the desert was from Abaddon's side of the conflict.
My theory is that Abaddon's influence rose first away from the stronghold of the Gods (Oor). At some point he gave the magic of the searing to the Charr, perhaps deliberately not telling them the full results, or perhaps they just screwed it up (see previous discussions for why one of those probably happened). Around the same time, the King of Orr's adviser found an ancient scroll written by Abaddon or one of his followers that didn't explicitly mention Abaddon (Letting it slip through the erasure of Abaddon's existence) but did give him the magic of the Cataclysm.
Also... I don't think Ascalon will end a desert. It will probably get more sandy (and it will be the crystalline sand of the desert instead of rocky sand) but I think the life we already see in places means life may well come out ahead in the end. Maybe the Charr weren't strong enough to use it to fullest potential or maybe it was simply different from the searing of the crystal desert. Or maybe it happened more then once there... (Now that is a scary thought... Imagine looking up to the sky and seeing death for a second, or tenth, time... this time knowing what it would do)
Anyway, with new story writers on the job I'm hoping that the "changes" leading up to nightfall will give us more insight into the searing among other things.|||We have three very different views on the creation of the Desert. On one hand, we have the Manuscripts that say the Desert was created by the gods as a refuge for the Forgotten. We have other sources saying it simply dried up. And now we have sources saying it was created by the Elonians and Margonites duking it out.
Point is: We have no idea, and making assumptions is dangerous here.|||Grow some hair on your chest QA ;) the way i see it, with the new writers, they threw out some of the lore written by the older writers. What other explanation could there be for the 3 "official" explanations of the crystal desert's existence?|||Different legends? The first two theories aren't mutually exclusive, as humans may not have understood why it dried out. As for the battle between the Margonites and Elonians, well we've yet to see all the ingame lore for that.|||What if the Margonites are back? Or there are still armies of Margonites left and is preparing for the Nightfall??
As it appears now, the Margonites are an integral part of Abaddon's plans.|||Quote:
We have three very different views on the creation of the Desert. On one hand, we have the Manuscripts that say the Desert was created by the gods as a refuge for the Forgotten. We have other sources saying it simply dried up. And now we have sources saying it was created by the Elonians and Margonites duking it out.
Point is: We have no idea, and making assumptions is dangerous here.
The sources that say it dried up, do they say why it dried up?
Could simply be part of one of the two other views.|||Not all the sources say it dried up though. It is a general concensus it dried up, but the views as to how are so different.|||Quote:
The sources that say it dried up, do they say why it dried up?
Could simply be part of one of the two other views.
This goes hand in hand with one of the other thoughts.
That due to the use of the Ancient Weapon against the Margonites, the Elonians perish, and with them went the water. This may be what caused the first searing. Although there is a direct contradiction which leads away from this idea. While the CD dwelling Elonia perished when they used the Ancient Weapon against either the Morganites or another peoples, as their buildings actually are built on what would be the river beds, it would be logical to state that this occured AFTER the water had receded from the Desert. So at this point it would suggest that it actually was not caused by the use of the Ancient Weapon. So, what else does it say? Could it be true that the gods did it for the Forgotten, or did it just happen naturally. If it happened naturally, what evidense verifies this?
Tuor, the thread your looking for is the Elonia vs Margonite in the Desert thread I wrote up. Do a quick search and you will find it.
Also if you do notice, the Ancient Weapon, well what we see as the weapon is probably nothing more then an "Arc" persay that carries the weapon. The weapon which could be inside infact may also be a similar scroll used the Orr. Though our source for its use says that the Elonia built the device rather then getting it from someone else, or scribing. So it may be more of an actual activatable item rather then a scroll.
|||Double posting? What's this? I merged your two posts. Please use the edit button during the hour period when you can rather than double posting.
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