Who are the parents of balthazar ?

Hey all,

I've new to the lore section. The 5 Gods have always fascinated me and I'm curious about a few things. I've searched and couldn't find any good answers.

1. Who is the oldest God and who is the youngest ?

2. Who are the parents of Balthazar ?

3. Were there 5 Gods when Dhuum was God of Death ?

4. Are the Gods related by Blood (except Balthazar and Menzies) ?

Thanks in advance. I'll keep looking.|||1. Of the current patheon: Dwayna is the oldest, Kormir is the youngest. Grenth is the youngest of the original five before Nightfall. Of all the gods, fallen ones included, it looks like Dhuum may be the oldest.

2. Unknown

3. No, there were six.

4. Unknown|||It'd personally put it at 5 Official Gods (NF ending included).

Kormir isn't a godess yet per se, since she has to clear her Realm of Abaddon's worshippers (which she let's us do), and doesn't have a large amount of worshippers herself.

Starting C4, the time of the 6 Official Gods would start probably. A few years past, Kormir established some followers and DoA is "cleaned".

Throughout history, the amount of Gods would have variable, and as shown by the Luxon's worship of Demigodesses, pretty hard to determine. At the time of Dhuum, there would have been 7 Gods minimum. Abaddon, Dhuum and the current 5. However, seeing as the first revealtion of Grenth involves Death, he was God of Death at that time and Humans would never have known this "Time of the 7 Gods". It'd have been 6 unless there are unrevieled Gods from that time still.|||There's nothing to support that. It's more likely Grenth overthrew Dhuum, exactly like the game says. It even goes so far as to say Grenth "rose up", suggesting he wasn't a god or at least wasn't a member of the pantheon yet.

For all intents and purposes, at any one time, there have only been a maximum of six gods.

Also, the "demigoddesses" are more likely the leaders of the Luxon clans. You even meet a few of them. The Emperor of Cantha is considered a demigod; I don't see why the Luxons don't use the same convention for the leaders of the three clans.|||Quote:








There's nothing to support that. It's more likely Grenth overthrew Dhuum, exactly like the game says. It even goes so far as to say Grenth "rose up", suggesting he wasn't a god or at least wasn't a member of the pantheon yet.

For all intents and purposes, at any one time, there have only been a maximum of six gods.




Uhh, Dhuum was God of Death, Grenth was God of Ice. Grenth beat Dhuum and took up his portefolio. Ice had to have been given to someone, and it didn't come from Abaddon. Dhuum is only labeled as Death. So, at a time, there would have been 7 Gods. Grenth rising up could imply Ice was considered a fairly lame power or that he was te only one of the others to stand up to Dhuum. If Grenth were human, Dhuum would have been kormired and absorbed into Grenth. Dhuum is running rampant so this isn't the case.|||Why does Ice and Death have to be represented by two different gods? All the other gods have swaye over two realms. Dwayna is Light and Life, Balthazar is Fire and War, Melandru is Earth and Nature, Abaddon was Water and Secrets/Knowledge, and Lyssa is Chaos, Illusion, and Beauty.

In fact, it makes more sense that Dhuum was the god of Ice and Death and Grenth took up both mantles.|||There is not evidence that tere were 7 Gods and any given time in Tyrian history. There is, however, evidence that the maximum has been 6. If Grenth was a God at the time of Dhums overtrhowing, The 5 Gods would have dealt with Abbadon a long time ago instead of just holding him in RoT. All evidence points to the fact that Gods cannot kill another God. Therefore it stands to reason that Grenth was "not" aGod when Dhum was one.|||I agree with Quintus, it does seem to make sense that death & ice went together from Dhuum to Grenth.


Quote:




Also, the "demigoddesses" are more likely the leaders of the Luxon clans. You even meet a few of them.




We meet captains Juno, Elora and Lexis, the current captains of the clans, whereas the three demigoddesses are listed as Alua, Elora and Ione. Since there have been many other captains of the clans that have not been listed, i would suggest that the three "demigoddesses" were those that began the clans, or perhaps the original captains. (i doubt the Eloras are one and the same). i agree entirely about the similar system to the emperors, though. I doubt very much they were literal demigoddesses.|||I'd even go so far as to say that the worship of the founders of the clans is why the Kurzicks intially started hating the Luxons. Religious feuds are the hardest to end.|||Quote:








1. Of the current patheon: Dwayna is the oldest, Kormir is the youngest. Grenth is the youngest of the original five before Nightfall. Of all the gods, fallen ones included, it looks like Dhuum may be the oldest.

2. Unknown

3. No, there were six.

4. Unknown




There were more than 6 gods, since Abaddon disposed of at least 2 at a later stage.