This is not meant to be a serious lecture, but a plausible connection between several events that span chapters.
We know that Vizier Kilborn, in an attempt to save Orr from the Charr, descended into the depths of the Catacombs of Arah and opened a forbidden scroll, which then caused the Cataclysm, destroying Orr, and creating the Undead Army, as well as corrupting the Vizier and creating the Lich.
For years now, it has been speculated what that scroll contained. Did the Vizier simply speak the incantation wrong? Was it a Titan spirit inside? Did Glint or Gwen somehow corrupt his mind? Was it the T-Virus? Did he get assimiliated by the Borg?!
200 years earlier, during a holy ceremony at the Harvest Temple, Shiro, the Emperor's body guard, struck him down, temporarily gaining massive power and unleashing the Jade Wind when he was defeated by the champions of the Kurzicks and Luxons with the help of Visu.
What exactly happened there? Did Shiro act on his own? Was he manipulated by the Am Fah and fortune teller? Was it a self-fulfilling prophecy? Was he possessed? Did he simply go postal?
Now, with the appearance of the Chaos Army, in both Tyria and Cantha, as well as the Underworld and possibly even Elona, as well as the revelation that the forces behind the events coming in Nightfall also corrupted Shiro, things begin to fall into place.
Eons ago, Dhuum ruled over the Underworld until Grenth "destroyed" him and took over as the God of Death we know now. Yet, the nature of the destruction is largely speculation. Some believe that Dhuum was killed, and is no more. Others believe his position was destroyed or that he was imprisioned somewhere. Those who follow my theory that the Old Gods are like daedra believe that he was greatly reduced in power and imprisioned.
This is an extention on that theory. When Grenth cast out Dhuum, destroying him as the God of Death and reducing his tower to the Chaos Planes, I believe that Dhuum was bodily destroyed, killed persay. Yet, due to Dhuum's nature as a daedraic Old God, like the rest, he was only able to be destroyed so far. His essence was trapped within the scroll of Arah that the Vizier read. When released, the force of Dhuum's chaotic return exploded outward, destroying Orr and posessing the Vizier in the form of a Titan spirit, leading him to fulfill the Flameseeker Prophecies in an effort to release the Titans. 200 years prior, Dhuum possessed Shiro with similar results. The Harvest Temple explodes and Shiro death wail, filled with all the Chaos of Dhuum, shoots outwards in a radial expansion, turning the Echovald Forest to Amber and the Jade Sea to....well....jade. The result is Shiro's soul is driven mad.
The connection between all these events, both Prophecies and Factions is that they were Dhuum's attempts to regain control. The difference is that at first, he could only silently influence people's minds. He needed the Emperor's conduit with the gods to influence Shiro. However, once the Vizier opened that scroll and read the words or perhaps the name of Dhuum (similar to the dwarven Tome of the Rubicon) and unleashed Dhuum into the realm again. Once Dhuum bodily returned, he was able to regain control of his Chaos Army and corrupt the Underworld once again, pouring out of the Tomb of Primeval Kings and eventually overrunning the Dragon Festival in Cantha.
Now Dhuum is influencing events in Elona in a final effort to finalize his grip.
While Shiro and the Lich both operated with some manner of purpose, they were being driven by forces, perhaps beyond their comprehension.
This theory is not meant to be taken as fact. There is still much we don't know. I have simply presented a plausible way that the events of the three campaigns may be tied together.|||Quote:
His essence was trapped within the scroll of Arah that the Vizier read. When released, the force of Dhuum's chaotic return exploded outward, destroying Orr and posessing the Vizier in the form of a Titan spirit, leading him to fulfill the Flameseeker Prophecies in an effort to release the Titans.
Unrolling one of the Lost Scrolls, kept inside a warded vault deep within the catacombs below Arrah, he spoke the words of a littanly that spelled the end of Orr forever.
One of the lost scrolls. One of multiple lost scrolls, hidden below Arrah. Are you implying that all of these scrolls contain evil gods or somesuch?
These scrolls contained dark magic. Dark is hardly an accurate way of describing the Titans. And why the hell would a titan soul enable one to control the dead anyhow? And why the hell would Dhuum of all people, use titans, the embodiment of destruction, to do his bidding? Dhuum wants to conquer, control, slave, torture, etc. Not simply destroy.
Now, you yourself stated that Grenth never lived in Arrah. Why would a scroll, containing the power of a god Grenth destroyed, be hidden in a vault under a city where he never even lived? The battle between Grenth and Dhuum seems very personal to me, as in, the other gods didn't have anything to do with it, and didn't interfere. Why would they do so later on?
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The connection between all these events, both Prophecies and Factions is that they were Dhuum's attempts to regain control.
The connection is that Anet's writers are very bad at writing an original story.|||Yes, it was one of many, but why did he choose this one of all of the possible scrolls he could've grabbed? It was probably set aside, maybe even locked up.|||Oddly enough, if anyone has read the PCFormat preview of GW (it's rubbish btw) it states that Nightfall will bring an end to the 'Titans/Shiro' story. Considering the preview was littered with mistakes (including the wrong date for the beta and I'm suspicious about the henchmen orders and plot choices as well) then it's not conclusive evidence of a link but it could be hinting thaT something was involved in both.|||Omg, I've seen this somewhere before...
That's right, in my favorite book series.
Old God (Read: God of Evil), gets cast out, then *eons* later, things start going wrong in the planet the series is set in. Now, about 5 books in, it starts getting really weird. Then at 10 books in, you learn just what the *heck* is going on, and why here of all places, and how every event is all connected. And why? So the Evil God can return!
And, in those books, even the Emperor gets possessed!
Seeing as that was the latest book so far, I have no idea what's coming next. |||Quote:
Now, you yourself stated that Grenth never lived in Arrah. Why would a scroll, containing the power of a god Grenth destroyed, be hidden in a vault under a city where he never even lived?
Here's a thought: What if the scrolls were primarily a record of the events in Cantha that caused the Jade Wind. When the jade wind was unleashed, there was probably a lot of confusion about what just happened. No one who had been there survived. Others investigated and eventually pieced together what had happened. That knowledge gets written down, and eventually finds its way to Orr where it gets locked away.
When the Vizier used one of the scrolls as part of an incantation, it re-triggered Dhuum's attempt to possess Shiro, only this time using the Vizier. Orr gets obliterated, but unlike last time, the Vizier survives to carry out Dhuum's plan. Shiro's soul, which was driven mad already by his encounter with Dhuum, senses the completion of Dhuum's plan. Desperate to avoid falling into Dhuum's control again, he attempts to become mortal hoping this will keep him out of Dhuum's reach. Having been driven mad though, he doesn't care how many people have to die to accomplish this, and doesn't really think through what might happen to him if his plan succeeds.
Just a bit of rampant speculation. |||I don't think Anet has ever said those scrolls contained dark magic. More like, destructive magic. And if the titans are indeed the "embodiment of destruction", then isn't it clear that they can all be attributed to Menzies?
Shiro's death wail can also be seen as a manifestation of destruction. The afflicted and chaos army, on the other hand, seemed to be chaotic.
I stand by my point that Menzies and Dhumm is allied and working together.|||If Dhuum is indeed destroyed, as in, gone forever, then I'd say Menzies is the next best guess. Still, we might all be wrong and it's a god we haven't seen yet. I'm open to that as well.|||I'm all for the gods need believers to be powerful track-of-mind, or at least large groups of people in a an emotional state.
The Charr invasion may have provided this and the Harvest ceremony certainly did. Perhaps whoever this god is channels large quantities of emotion to gain more hold over their domain.
Perhaps Dhuum is merely a turtle at the moment wondering purposefully through a desert waiting to be picked up by an eagle and dropped on a big shindig.
-Art|||Well, both situations we've seen so far - Lich and Shiro - have been cases were extreme circumstances have pushed these people to willingly commit atrocious acts. Despite the fact that there were mitigating circumstances pushing both men toward the brink, both Shiro and the Vizier made the decision of their own accord.
There's another link to this, and this might be shot to heck based on how nightfall goes... In the cases of both Orr and southern Cantha, there was a massive amount of damage/destruction done to the land to the point that it became either uninhabitable or extremely inhospitable.
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