Saturday, April 21, 2012

Lyssa and Melandru, why have you not opened your domains to the faithful?

Balthazar and Grenth and opened up their domains for humans to pit themselves against their harsh domains. Grenth, I imagine simply wants more souls and Balthazar enjoys the combat.

That leaves Lyssa and Melandru, neither are providing access to their domains. They have left tantalizing evidence that there is a possible access point (ToA) to their world yet provide none. Why is that? Are they untrusting of humans? Are they fearfull they will spoil their domain? With the absence of and true display of power do they hurt themselves or help themselves?

Lyssa is the goddess of beauty & illusion, both are powerful against the weak of mind. Does she feel humans have gained enough power to possibly challenge her is that why she grants no access? I doubt it, all worshippers of Lyssa are able to wield the power given to them by her and defeat even the mightiest of foes.

Melandru is the goddess of earth & nature, both powerful indeed. The ability to control nature slow, yet strong once set. Yet humans are able to destroy and/or control nature utterly, as can be seen if you travel to cantha city. As any Geomancer will atest the ability to control the earth around you provides some of the best defensives and some offensives. Seeing at Melandru is able to defend herself quite well, I can not see why she does not allow access either.

I believe they do not provide access not because they themselves are fearful of humans, but they have created worlds which they fear will be spoiled by human access. With that said do they not even trust their faithful to adhere to the tenants of their laws? I find that strange, to create a world that only they will see and allow no humans access to bring back word of the beauty and deadlyness of the worlds?|||Melandru is the goddess of nature, so she may simply not have a extraearthly realm, and Lyssa, being the only visably noncorporeal goddess, may have a realm that is simply inaccessible to humans, or uncomprehenisble to a fragile mind. If it is a realm of chaos and illusion, it may drive those who enter it insane if they are not adequetly prepared.|||The same could be applied to Melandru aswell. Perhaps the only ones allowed inside the realm of Melandru are those who truely understand nature and it's patron godess: the druids.|||Melandru thrives where nature thrives, in the Jungles, in the grasslands of Kryta, even in the frozen forests of the Shiverpeaks, the druids being the only ones able to truly understand nature and the course of time as showed in the quest you get at Druid's Overlook, I forgot its name though.

As for Lyssa, even the most complicated mind would get shattered trying to comprehend the machinations of Lyssa's extraearthy realm. If Lyssa is the ruling goddess(es) of Mesmers, who are undoubted masters at subverting the mind and abilities of others, be it slowly and painfully, or noticeably and harshly. Friends would turn upon friends, loves upon lovers, and some would just slump to the ground, mumbling to themselves about past troubles as their mind is slowly picked apart by the chaos within the realm. Grim as it is, it could be the truth.|||what about dwayna? |||Quote:








Melandru is the goddess of nature, so she may simply not have a extraearthly realm, and Lyssa, being the only visably noncorporeal goddess, may have a realm that is simply inaccessible to humans, or uncomprehenisble to a fragile mind. If it is a realm of chaos and illusion, it may drive those who enter it insane if they are not adequetly prepared.




How do you figure Lyssa has no tangible body?

Remember when you bow to her alter, it's not her that comes forth, it's her muse.

Lyssa is quite tangible, as is obvious from the scriptures of Lyssa.

Dwayna is the only god we can actually summon, the rest are just representations of themselves and not actually what they look like, as their statues show.

Melandru most likely has no special realm as she is the god of the earth.|||Quote:








Melandru is the goddess of nature, so she may simply not have a extraearthly realm, and Lyssa, being the only visably noncorporeal goddess, may have a realm that is simply inaccessible to humans, or uncomprehenisble to a fragile mind. If it is a realm of chaos and illusion, it may drive those who enter it insane if they are not adequetly prepared.




You could say the same of Grenth- if Grenth's realm is the land of the dead, wouldn't dying be the only way to get there? But this is obviously not the case, and it's entirely possible that the other divine realms are similarly accessable to mortals.



The main thing, I think, is a matter of permission- Grenth and Balthazar both allow mortal humans to travel to their personal realms because they require aid to deal with some problem (Menzie's armies in the Fissure of Woe, the Terrorweb Dryders imprisoning the Reapers). Presumably, if Melandru or Lyssa (or Dwayna) ever have a problem that can only be solved by mortal hands, they'd open up their realm to mortals.|||Quote:








As for Lyssa, even the most complicated mind would get shattered trying to comprehend the machinations of Lyssa's extraearthy realm. If Lyssa is the ruling goddess(es) of Mesmers, who are undoubted masters at subverting the mind and abilities of others, be it slowly and painfully, or noticeably and harshly. Friends would turn upon friends, loves upon lovers, and some would just slump to the ground, mumbling to themselves about past troubles as their mind is slowly picked apart by the chaos within the realm. Grim as it is, it could be the truth.




I like how you put that. I agree; I think in Lyssa's case, humans may not be able to comprehend her realm, and the results would be far from beautiful.|||Quote:








How do you figure Lyssa has no tangible body?

Remember when you bow to her alter, it's not her that comes forth, it's her muse.

Lyssa is quite tangible, as is obvious from the scriptures of Lyssa.

Dwayna is the only god we can actually summon, the rest are just representations of themselves and not actually what they look like, as their statues show.

Melandru most likely has no special realm as she is the god of the earth.




Perhaps you need to read the baseplates of the Lyssa statues again. Lyssa is the only goddess (if I recall) who changes forms, and her nature as the goddess of illusion seems to strengthen this. Also, her muse is the only "crazy" avatar. By crazy I mean it has no real form, and the avatars are generally a reflection of the nature of the deity, thus Balthazar has a warrior, Melandru has a druid, and Lyssa has a noncorporeal floating face (a muse).

I also think the user that said we aren't allowed in because we have no reason to be there is on to something.|||A more plausible, and simple reason would be that those realms were not being attacked..

As we can see UW and FoW were under attack by some forces, that's why the Gods want us to fix it for them...

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