)Lord Odran
First, I little review on who Lord Odran was for those who don't know:
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Using a spell of his own devising and the sacrifice of many souls, Lord Odran, a powerful arcanist who specialized in the study of temporal distortions, opened a portal that offered him access to the Mists and eventually into the Rift itself. The spirits who had given their lives to earn access to the hallowed afterlife were outraged. They turned their fury upon the intruder, attacking Lord Odran with all of their legendary, collective might. But it had been hundreds of years since most of the spirits had interacted with the physical world, and none of them had ever done so in their shadow form. As powerful as they had been in life, they could not harm the physical manifestation of the wizard lord�not yet. He was untouchable here in the land of the dead, and he traveled freely through the Hall of Heroes.
Over the years, Lord Odran learned to use the Rift to travel across the multiverse. He opened portals on nearly all of the different worlds, turning the Rift into his own personal gateway. But though he was clever, the wizard lord was himself only mortal, and eventually the spirits of the Hall discovered a way to interact with the corporeal world. Odran�s last physical journey through the Rift cost him his mortal life. The wizard lord was torn to shreds by hundreds of angry souls seeking retribution for his trespasses.
When Odran�s mortal body died, the wards and enchantments that kept his portals hidden failed, and the gates to the Hall of Heroes were laid open to all who were able to find them. The wizard lord had been canny though; Odran knew that one day he too might be ensconced in the Hall of Heroes, so he hid the portals in the most treacherous locations he could find. The fear of death, he surmised, would keep the meek at bay.
But a long time has passed, and it is clear now that the wizard lord, like the gods before him, underestimated the greed of men. Over time, the whereabouts of the portals have been revealed. Though they remain difficult to get to, there are those with enough skill and enough bravery to reach them, and every day the numbers of intruders to the Hall of Heroes rises.
An unending battle for supremacy rages inside the Hall. The spirit inhabitants have taken to playing groups of mortals against each other for sport, placing bets on which will make it farthest and giving special aid to those they favor. Control of the Hall itself has its rewards�and its costs as well.
More information at here (although most, if not all, is just rewording of what I quoted).
Odran and Abaddon
Now, as far as I can find, there is no direct relation between Odran and Abaddon, and very little to even support such a thing, so I won't even bring that up until the very end. However, after looking at the timeline and the Ecology of the Charr, I have noticed something interesting. Shiro's corruption and the first Titan to show up to the Charr happened about 200 years ago, Odran's portals were opened about 220 years ago.
For those who don't want to read the whole Ecology of the Charr to find the spot about the Titan:
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So, in order to fight the human threat, the Charr sought a god of their own. Two hundred years before the Searing, the Burnt warband, a group dedicated to the Flame Legion, ventured to the lands surrounding the Hrangmer volcano (translated to human, the name means �Jaws of Oblivion�). Upon its return, the warband claimed to have found gods for the Charr at long last.
Eager for a new purpose and filled with pride, members of the Flame Legion swore allegiance to these new gods, converting or destroying anyone who stood in their path. One by one, the legions of the Charr fell beneath the control of these �gods� and their Shamans, and the Charr at last earned new magic, a new means of destroying their human enemies south of the Wall.
What seems to be nearly positive, although it is possible to not be the case, is that Abaddon used Odran's rifts to send the Titan and the Fortune Teller, possibly Razakel as well, to Tyria. (Side Note: This could mean there is a rift by Odran at the Hrangmer Volcano, seeing how it is probably a "dangerous place").
Now I have three theories - or hypotheses, whichever you wish to call it. Starting from least likely to most likely:
1. Odran was a follower of Abaddon and was ordered to create the portals *and his own lust for knowledge led him to seek Abaddon, the God of Secrets, out and explore other realms/worlds*.
2. Odran was influenced by Abaddon and created the portals unknowingly for Abaddon to use, thinking that he found the way to make the portals when Abaddon gave him the way to make them.
3. Odran had absolutely nothing to do with Abaddon and after Odran's death Abaddon used the portals for his own use.
Now, if the three followers of Abaddon *the Fortune Teller, Terick/Razakel, and the Titan *probably Saevio Proelium, who was captured by the Order of Whispers 100 years ago*, I would assume they came from the rifts in these locations:
Razakel: Tombs of the Primeval Kings *based on the fact that this place is closest to Orr, that we know of*
Titan: Hrangmer Volcano
Fortune Teller: Some place in Cantha *possibly near the Jade Sea*
Now, sadly, I realize there is little proof to suggest that Abaddon even used Odran's portals, but I thought the timing of the events are too close to be a coincidence, and I thought it was worth bringing up.
Your thoughts on this is appreciated.|||My own little fiction that I thought up (It was mainly for my comic, but you bringing up this subject can possible shed some light) was that Odran, in his search for knowledge stumbled upon the secrets of Abaddon and gained with that the knowledge to open these Rifts through the Mists.
And who else can open Rifts?
Torment creatures & Margonites (The "Chaos Rifts") and the Lich Lord (His portals as seen in HP).
All linked to Abaddon.|||umm i dont see a volcano like area in cantha|||Quote:
My own little fiction that I thought up (It was mainly for my comic, but you bringing up this subject can possible shed some light) was that Odran, in his search for knowledge stumbled upon the secrets of Abaddon and gained with that the knowledge to open these Rifts through the Mists.
And who else can open Rifts?
Torment creatures & Margonites (The "Chaos Rifts") and the Lich Lord (His portals as seen in HP).
All linked to Abaddon.
I actually read *and love* you're Requiem for Sanity comics ^^ and that comic was probably the first thing to get me to look into this. Then I noticed in the timeline all the dates matching up, which got me to think about this even more. What would be funny is if your little fan-fic comic with Odran ends fairly close to true.
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Edit: btw it's Saturday, where's the next comic? :x
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umm i dont see a volcano like area in cantha
Who said the Hrangmer volcano was in Cantha? The Volcano was accessible to the Charr. I never said that the Fortune Teller came from the same portal the Titan did. I just stated the Titan came from a portal at the volcano *or most likely I should say* and I said that the Fortune Teller came from a portal which is most likely located in the Jade Sea *if anywhere in cantha is "dangerous" I would assume it to be the Deep area, even back then Kanaxai may have been around, and those leviathans sure were*.|||Simply wonderful! But, do we know when Abaddon actually came along; because it -may- be possible Odran became the God of Secrets after he died?|||We don't have an exact date on when Abaddon came about or around, but it was definitely millennia before Odran was ever born. And even then, there was a God prior to Abaddon, whom Abaddon struck down to usurp his place amongst the other Gods.|||Gmr, where you read 'dis info?|||It's part of a quest given by the Apostate in the Gate of Fear.|||so now Abaddon is down is there a way for a defeated god to sorta uprise again?|||Quote:
so now Abaddon is down is there a way for a defeated god to sorta uprise again?
Uhm, yes?
Haven't you noticed how Dhuum and Mhenzies are still, you know, screwing all over the UW and FoW?
Or read any of the "defeated God" topics we have so many about?
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