Looking through the summary of the races, posted by Quintus Anotnius here, I saw a few large similarities in the characteristics of each race.
Quote:
The way to purity to them is battle, and the spirits of animals are placed in high regard.
Quote:
The Charr are a brutal and merciless race of catmen, with a code of honor that stresses the victory is what matters, not the means by which that victory is achieved.
Quote:
Viewing larger races as less intelligent, the Asura mindset is one of Manifest Destiny. They believe they are the destined rulers of Tyria, and seek to expand their empire to the surface world, with the other races as their subjects.
Quote:
To me they seem more consistant with GW2, as the description for that game says that humans are near extinction because of the rise of tons of new races.
Quote:
Possesing a supernatural connection to nature, and with considerable skill in the magical and dexterous arts, Sylvani also have a natural empathic connection to one another.
Quote:
There will be two types of PvP in Guild Wars 2:
World PvP will allow you to play characters of any level, using the skills that you have in your possession at that particular time.
Structured PvP (similar to today's GvG) will allow you to enter the game at maximum level with all skills. Yes, that's UAX.
I think the characteristics I'm hinting at are quite evident in the first three races. They all share a love of battle, whether it is for actual conquest (Charr and Asuran) or to cleanse/better themselves (Norns). Though the more structured gladitorial combat designed by the Zaishen might appeal to the Norns (after all Battle is Battle) the Charr and Asuran at the least will try and expand their empires to rule others as much as possible. In the case of the Charr, further evidence is easily given by the (unnecesarry) invasion of Ascalon.
Humans will probably have the new goal of mass genocide against all other races. After all they're nearing extinction thanks to the Charr, Norns, Asuran and even the Sylvani. That will be enough to put some peoples hackles up. Not to mention the Ascalonian feud with the Charr, and the destruction of Orr by the Charr. That's not even mentioning what devastation the earthquake which unearths the Asuran may cause, although it would be silly to hold that against the Asuran (by all logic, I doubt Asuran have the power to cause such a powerful earthquake all over Tyria, and I suspect it to be the Great Destroyer's doing. However if the humans do decide to kill the Asuran I doubt they wouldn't just rewrite history and say that the Asuran caused the quake to begin with).
The fact that Gaile herself has confirmed World PvP, so players fighting against players in normal PvE territory, means that a war is an easy excuse for such PvP. After all, if the various races are at war, and you are climbing the Shiverpeaks and find a Norn at the top, wouldn't you try and kill him, even if the area is not a typical run-of-the-mill battlefield?
This is also supported by other popular MMOs where you often see that various races hate each other so much, that they can kill each other (*cough*WoW-PvP-realm*cough*).
The only ones that don't really fit in are the Sylvani. They could be dragged into the war, however that would require much more difficulty than the other races. Still if they have an empathic connection with Nature, and the Charr for example Sear a large part of Nature, or the Humans open up a huge Vortex of Swirling Death, or Norns change their shape from one monstrosity to another, or if Asurans molest the Earth under their feet, than yes I can see why they'd be a bit mad at the other races.
I think there is plenty of evidence to suggest a Tyrian Interracial War, and most of it is fairly obvious, however I'm still not certain where the Sylvani stand.
A few other things I noticed:
The Inquirer came with an uncopy righted screenshot (or at least not zealously protected by Gaile :P), which pictured a building seemingly made out of stone, iron and magic, the tools used by the Asuran. However it is located above ground, in the Northern area, presumably the Far Shiverpeaks, home to the Norns. Would this be a part of Norn or Asuran architecture?
Strangely enough it also shares some characteristics with (1) Elementalist Aziure's Pre-Sear tower and (2) Dwarven structure. Would this imply that either the Norns or Asuran were at Pre-Sear before the Ascalonians, and that who ever build the Inquirer's tower later taught (part of) their building technique to the Dwarves?|||It'd techinically be something like World War V or VI, as Tyria has had several "world wars" already. (Guild Wars, War of the Gods, etc)
Also, that building in the Inquirer screenshot was also in the PCGamer article. The captions around it suggested it was the Hall of Monuments. I'm not really sure, to be honest.
As for the rest of it, I think it is a bit too soon to be speculating on a storyline that is two years off.|||well, i see us helping out all races without any trouble.....except for the charr
the charr has a past with us, but in the mddle of the battle, and if we help they will not think twice of trusting you, but the one i think to start some fights are us, the humans, us and our emotions......sigh......
every race is at war right now, we are here to help ;p|||If we could work with them in the Realm of Torment, then who's to say we won't be able to work with them hundreds of years in the future?
Who knows, maybe someday a charr just turns to a human and says "hey man, sorry about trying to wipe out your species." and the human replies "hey, it's cool. Wanna buy some ecto?"
And that's how the first charr obtained Obsidian armour, and he was the envy of all his fuzzy little buddies. The end.
On a serious note, I don't think it's really practical for all the races to be at war with all the other races. That'd be fighting on 4 fronts, each. Not to mention whatever hostile local wildlife they'd encounter (I can't imagine the avicara would bother picking a side between a norn fighting an asura, and would just slaughter them both).
I feel there will almost have to be some sort of alliance existing between the various races, but what that alliance will consist of is beyond my predictive powers. Who knows, maybe it'll be freeform, so you can choose who you align yourself with?
That brings up another point though. Will guilds be able to exist with members of different races? If all the races were constantly at war, any guild with more than one race would tear itself apart.|||Quote:
On a serious note, I don't think it's really practical for all the races to be at war with all the other races. That'd be fighting on 4 fronts, each. Not to mention whatever hostile local wildlife they'd encounter (I can't imagine the avicara would bother picking a side between a norn fighting an asura, and would just slaughter them both).
Well lookin at World War II, there was fighting in Northern Africa, Western and Eastern Europe, Northern Europe, bombings everywhere, Japan vs. Indonesia and the Pacific, and I'm no historian so there may have been other fronts as well.
In a World War, I'd say very rarely is there fighting at all fronts at the same time, and if there is and it's a free for all, than everyone is fighting a four-way war, so everyone's power is dimished by a factor of four. Though I doubt that the math is that simple, being no general either, I think it is roughly correct to say that all races would be equally powerful.
Quote:
I feel there will almost have to be some sort of alliance existing between the various races, but what that alliance will consist of is beyond my predictive powers. Who knows, maybe it'll be freeform, so you can choose who you align yourself with?
That brings up another point though. Will guilds be able to exist with members of different races? If all the races were constantly at war, any guild with more than one race would tear itself apart.
If I'd have to make a guess at possible alliances, I'd say Norns+Humans, vs. Charr+Asuran, with Sylvani looking on like wide-eyed innocents or somethin... Ofcourse it could very well be that it's free alignment, though in that case I hope you could switch alignment mid-game and experience life from both sides of the fence.
That would also work better with Guilds etc. After all, it would be a bit unlogical if a Charr and a Human got along perfectly fine just because theyre in the same guild while occasionally slaughtering the other's family when out questing...
Quote:
It'd techinically be something like World War V or VI, as Tyria has had several "world wars" already. (Guild Wars, War of the Gods, etc)
Also, that building in the Inquirer screenshot was also in the PCGamer article. The captions around it suggested it was the Hall of Monuments. I'm not really sure, to be honest.
It would be logical for the Hall of Monument to be up in the North, as GW:EN is supposed to play a role mostly high up there. Does the article mention who builds the Hall? I'd say the Asuran, as it seems they're the ones who fought/were fighting against the Great Destroyer, and they're the magical race so it would be more logical if they could preserve items and titles of a character for over a 100 years than the Norn, who as far as we know only has shapeshifting as a magical talent.
Quote:
the charr has a past with us, but in the mddle of the battle, and if we help they will not think twice of trusting you, but the one i think to start some fights are us, the humans, us and our emotions......sigh......
I doubt the other races don't have emotions themselves :P I'd say it'd be very annoying for them to be completely void of any emotion (plus we already know some characteritic 'emotions')...|||Quote:
The fact that Gaile herself has confirmed World PvP, so players fighting against players in normal PvE territory, means that a war is an easy excuse for such PvP.
Sorry to butcher your followings but care to state where Gaile said PVP/PVE would bump heads? Just because it's called World PVP doesn't indicate we'll be fighting other players within the PVE environment (IE: one set on the side of the Charr and the other with the Norn. )
AB was considered somewhat PVP v PVE but there wasn't much PVE in it except wider areas and certain obstacles needed for possession to over throw the enemy. That's all this sounds like to me but I wouldn't mind seeing how they would try to incorporate scenarios like that.
:3|||I still think it's funny that humans are on the edge of extinction. What race stopped the Lich and his titan army from destroying Tyria? The humans. What race stopped Shiro from returning to his mortal form and raising hell in Cantha? The humans. Who finally put a rest to Abaddon? The humans. None of the other races helped. The Asurans were too busy in their underground empire, the Charr were invading us, the Norn and the Sylvani were doing something. I think it'll be rather sad to see the human race nearly extinct in GW2, despite all their accomplishments.|||Heh..That is kind of interesting now that you mention it. The only races that ever did help us in-game would be the Dwarves,Centaurs,and Tengu.
Speaking of those three races, what happens to them in GW2 or GW:EotN? I mean are they suddenly on the brink of extinction in GW2 for helping the humans? Do we have some kind of curse that every so many years we have to be nearly wiped off of Tyria and it's contagious to those who help us?
Honestly if that's the case that just sucks.
However the good side is if Asura are helping us in GW:EotN then we'll pass that curse to them. |||Actually, didn't Tengu,Losaru Centaurs, Dwarves, and Charr (in the RoT) have a hand in helping?
Humans did have fun committing genocide while doing it though, and then took all the credit.
As for world wars having a worldwide front, that's simply not true. World War I only had two major fronts in Europe, it was just called a "World War" because most of the major European powers had colonies around the world from which they drew troops.|||If you look back over my post you'll see I said ever and didn't say never.
Where did the Losaru Centaurs help us again? The Charr I didn't think of because of the fact that there is so little they've helped us with unless you've done certain quests.
No comments:
Post a Comment