But I really doubt that those metal heaps are built by the Charr.
(I know that there's already a thread about it, but it's just a small part of my hypothesis here, so I just took the liberty of making a new one... if it's okay for you...)
Aren't Charr more like a nomadic kind of people after all?
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They have no farms, and no need for agriculture or vegetation outside of what is needed for structures or technical uses. They herd roaming bands of beasts to feed the legions, (...)
Then why wasting time and resources on building these, when you have an ongoing war with the humans of Ascalon, and you could really use all that steel and/or iron for building weapons and armor?
Most other Charr buildings we know are simple... made of leather, fur, wood, some stones and bones... they can be built much, much faster, and the Charr only have to use materials they can acquire in a matter of some hours or even minutes...
In my opinion, these 'buildings' really look like armor remnants of a giant race, found by the Charr and used as housings...
Let's take a look at a 'helmet' of these giant armors (found in the Charr fortress at the lake in Grothmar Wardowns)... It just looks like it was built for a Great Giant, a Giganticus Lupicus, with armor/blades for the tusks/horns, and even the size fits:
At this part, I'll mention something, that I will try to explain later: All these 'giant armor remnants' are found near the 'Water Dragon'.
Now, let's take a look at all those other bones (beside the ones that are said to be the remains of Giganticus Lupicus, like the skull in the above screenshots) in the Crystal Desert/The Desolation, more exactly, the Poisoned Outcrops:
Don't they look like the bones of a dragon? A long skull with sharp teeth, the long, pointed tail, the spiked vertebrae... and there are even bones of legs, arms and maybe - it's hard to tell, since most parts of them are stuck in the sand and sulfur - wings.
We don't know if the Ancient Dragons are of Tyrian origin or not.
But even if the Ancient Dragons came from another sphere/dimension, from the Rift or somewhere else, it's hard to believe that these are/were the only dragons (beside Glint - in comparison with the ancient ones, she just doesn't count... also, she was created by the gods, so let's just forget about her right now).
It's just a guess, but I believe the Ancient Dragons like 'Drakkar', 'Grothmar' the 'Water Dragon' and Primordus are the remaining leaders, the most powerful individuals of the dragon species that roamed Tyria a long, long time ago.
All those bones we find across the deserts (and some in the Underworld) are the remains of the other ones.
Now, let's travel from the south to the extreme north, to look at the supposedly oldest building on Tyria, neither built by humans, Asura, Charr, Norn or Dwarves, the Eye of the North:
Look at it's top - or more what's left of it: It's destroyed, shattered...
By the dragons?
Well, if the Eye of the North is/was a kind of watchtower, allowing to see the actions of the dragons through the scrying pool (think of it, we were able to see the actions of Primordus' general, the Great Destroyer), they had reason enough to attack it.
So, what in the name of Abaddon was happening on Tyria at these times?
My hypothesis:
War.
War between the Great Giants (or - if the Giants were nothing more than brutal beasts - the ones who built the eye of the north and forged the armor for their allies/war beasts, the Great Giants... maybe the gods*?) - and the Ancient Dragons... over the control of Tyria.
*The gods versus the dragons... the ones who created the world, and the ones who wanted to destroy it... sounds about right.
Also, this could be a reason why they created Glint. Impressed by the power of the Ancient Dragons, they tried to create something equal... just more speculation here...
The greatest slaughter took place where we now find the bones of the giants and the dragons close to each other: Over, in or on islands in the Crystal Sea.
In the Charr Homelands, the builders of the Eye of the North and/or heavily armored Giants were able to 'defeat' one of the leaders of the dragon forces, 'Grothmar' the 'Water Dragon'.
The armor platings of some giants still remain there.
The war over Tyria ended 10,000 BE.
The Great Giants went extinct and the dragons were defeated.
Defeated, but not destroyed. The leaders of the dragons, the ancient ones, were too powerful to be destroyed... but weakened.
They were put to sleep for thousands of years... still dreaming to control all of Tyria.|||The giants helmets where my speculations 2, and now with those screenshots, what els Could it be??
it was my theory 2 that the Gigantus lupicus Fought the Dragons and where Slaughtert one by one, but the dragons had casualties two..
and the remaining where to weak so they got in to a million years Hibernation
Good Research work, Realy
Edit: That over the Eye, i never saw that, it could be that the eye was meters higher then that it is now, when arah Come sup in GW 2 we could Check if its the same buildings style as the Eye of the north|||I think at the end you meant to say "dreaming of destroying Tyria", but either way excellent theory. Theory, that is, because you have supporting evidence that can be compared and tested.
As to the location of the Hall of Monuments, and the Northlands, it could be possible that the Hall of Monuments was the main base of the Gods at the time. From there they kept watch over the Great Giants forging their armor and preparing for battle. Much in the same way the Ebon Vanguard takes it as their headquarters and strikes out at the Charr, the Gods watched over their armies preparing for war.
Yes, La Jaffa, I do believe your speculation may have led to his research on it. If that is the case he did an excellent job of fleshing it out.
Edit: I was curious as to what one of the Great Giants might have looked like with those helmets on and..Well..
|||Thanks for the feedback. 
Well, I carried the idea in my head since I first finished EotN. But thanks to the members of this forum, I finally got the motivation to write it down...
I also hope that we will be able to see Arah in GW2... and learn to know more background information about the gods.
If they really had the need to use a scrying device or other magic 'items', and had to rally the giants to defeat the dragons, they sure are not as almighty as most mortals on Tyria think...
Thinking of mere mortals who simply 'stole' the power of a real god here...
Also a pity, that we still don't know how a Giganticus Lupicus looked like... all we have is a skull without a jaw and hundreds of meters of vertebrae...
|||i want to see how the Dragons realy look like, and how big they are in compare with Humans..but we need to find weapons, you cant fight a desent war with out weapons|||Well, actually, La Jaffa if you go to Dalada Uplands or Grothmar Wardowns you can compare yourself with Grothmar. If you go out to Drakkar Lake you can compare yourself with Drakkar. If you..Well, this will most likely result in death, but if you go into Primordus's chamber you can compare yourself with him.|||Yes but there lying down or hanging
i want to stand next to a dragon that is standing on his feet and looking at me...
But ya, i compared myself with drakkar (never did that before) im as big as half his feet ...|||so thats the head i wonder how tall these giants were... also how the heck did they manage to get enough material to cover themselves?|||Quote:
Edit: I was curious as to what one of the Great Giants might have looked like with those helmets on and..Well..
That is assuming the helmets and the skull are taken at the same size. I was under the impression that the Helmets found at the Charr lands were a lot smaller than the skulls found in the CD.
It's a nice theory and sounds likely, but the pictures as they are aren't a good argument. You'd need comparison shots from the same angle and distance for it to prove anything.
Also, why would the Dragons/Giants even need armor? They're freaking Dragons/Giants. I don't think that in a war between Dragons or Giants, metal armor would make any difference whatsoever. Even if they're not the stereotypical Firebreathing species, they're still huge, which means a punch would pack quite some power behind it. In which case a metal helmet (only armor we actually see) would be in the disadvantage of the Dragon wearing it as the metal would most likely be dented into the Dragon's skull, or smashed into bits against his face if his skin is too tough. Not to mention that a helmet like that would behindering the Dragon's ability to use his mouth for whatever purpose (firebreathing probably). In the case of a Giant, why is there only helmets found? In comparison to our current "Giants", they've been able to make suitable body armor as well, though given that their anatomy is quite different from the GL, it could be that a helmet was all they could wear because the rest would limit movement too much.
On a side note, if the GL actually wore that armor, why are there no traces of armor found near any of the bodies? They're apparently of Good enough quality to survive in the Charr lands, which looks like a humid (rainy?) climate, which would have caused the metal to rust in those 10, 000 years. If it were made out of a special metal that can't rust, why was it so easily destroyed by sand (CD) and Sulferous gasses? Well, the gasses would be bad I guess...|||maybe the armor is under the sand...
and, maybe they dont wore it there because its frikin hot?
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