I know that missing persons isn't exactly the person of the Lore forum, but I have recently been thinking that maybe somebody... Gwen... survived the Searing.
She was there alright, she's in the final cutscene before the Kingdom of Ascalon is destroyed forever in a flash of fire. However, after this, Gwen is nowhere to be found, but there is evidence of her existence, and possibly, her survival.
Although evidence is scarce, there is one thing indicating that she has escaped Ascalon. A tattered girl's cape washes up on the shore of the Stingray Strand in Southern Kryta occasionally... similar to the small girl's cape the player can buy Gwen in Ascalon, before The Searing, telling us she at least made it across the Shiverpeaks, or sailed from Orr (The Cataclysm wasn't until approx. 1 year after the Searing). She definitely didn't drown, as what used to be Lakeside County is far, far away from the coast, so the tattered girl's cape must have been taken to Kryta by land.
Further pointing to her survival is the fact that her mother, Sarah, has been searching the Underworld for two years for Gwen, but hasn't found her
Also, does anybody know about the Tapestry Shred that Gwen would give the player when she is given a small girl's cape, a flute and some Red Iris Flowers? What tapestry does it come from, and what is on it?|||I personally haven't been able to find that Tattered Cape, but somewhere on the Community forums, it was proposed that there are five items, but only 4 accounted for - Tapestry Shred, Gwen's Boken Flute, Tattered Cape & The Dead Flower.
These items are supposedly littered all across Tyria the continent, and begs the question whether they are all part of a yet to be found quest.
As to Gwen surviving the Searing, I would say it is quite possible - there are a lot of people who survived, and Gwen could have wandered into the right area at the right time...who knows? I think she is alive, but thats a different story....
On the other side, has anyone seen anything linked to Gwen in Cantha?
Mularc|||Perhaps Gwen is also the Leech. Since he knows about the Prophecies, then he would also know who you are, and that you are the Chosen to help him out freeing the Titans.
Gwen 'helps' you in Pre-Searing because you found her broken fluit. Ofcourse the Leech has to act like a little girl then and jump around in the greeny fields, playing songs on her (broken) fluit.
Ofcourse she can't summon an army of Undead for obvious reasons.
She doesnt get attacked by Grawl, or other beasts.
So perhaps she's kind of guarding ur xxx and making sure u will survive untill the prophecies are forfilled.
And catching that butterfly was perhaps a sign for the Charr to attack because 'you are ready to move on'.
BTW: I believe the Cape nor the broken flute can be found in Post-Searing anymore. I don't know about the flowers, no idea where they should be.|||The dead flower was made up, it doesn't exist.
People love spreading that rumour.|||Please, this is the lore forum, saying things like Gwen could be the "leech"! is out of place.
From what has been released by Anet, they were planning to add things about it at a later date, but it seems they never got around to it. Huge waste imo. It seems clear that she survived the Searing, but from there is a mystery, as is how the cape ended up in Kryta. I've spent time looking round nearby where it is, and can find nothing of note.|||Vizier Kilbron is the Lich, end of story.
As for Gwen, I don't think, whether dead or alive, that she is a significant part of Guild Wars lore. While she is a fan-favorite character (whether hated or loved), in the reality of the game, she was just another victim of the Searing. Just because pieces of her posessions are found in other parts of the world does not necessarily mean she survived. Remember, the Charr did invade the entire world, it's possible they carried her off, as gruesome as that may be. It's also possible that, just like the phenomenon of raining frogs, Gwen was simply blown to pieces, some of which came down in the Sea of Sorrow's and washed up in Kryta.
All the gruesomeness aside, it is also likely Gwen survived. If that is the case, she probably came across the Shiverpeaks just like the rest of the refugees. Just because we don't interact with her again, doesn't mean she didn't survive or follow the same path as the other Ascalonians.
Once again, Gwen is not a significant character, and as such, wouldn't have a big place in the post-Searing world, where she would probably become one of those millions of unnamed people that exist but are never seen.
The jury is still out, but I'm warning everyone now, if this develops into a "Gwen is the Lich/Charr/Mursaat/Forgotten/Glint/Elvis" conspircy thread, I will close it.|||Quote:
The jury is still out, but I'm warning everyone now, if this develops into a "Gwen is the Lich/Charr/Mursaat/Forgotten/Glint/Elvis" conspircy thread, I will close it.
Is it ok to make a new thread about that issue then?|||Quote:
Is it ok to make a new thread about that issue then?
Please don't do it in the Lore Forum, as I do not think it is legitamate lore.|||Moenbase,I'm fairly sure the answer is no. Even if you are being sarcastic..
Also,does anyone find it odd you find Gwen's Broken Flute not to far away from Sardelac Sanitarium?|||I don't know much about the Lore of Guild Wars (I'm trying to though!) but surely since Gwen is such a hit with the fans and at the end of the pre-event they had her being part of the seering with the 'Mommies dead, you're all going to die!' type stuff it'd make sense to use her again. She also heals quite well.
Plus little girls are always scarey.
Anyways I just popped by to read up on Dhum, thought I'd chuck my 2 cents in here though.
Nice work everyone, keep it up!
-Art
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