Wednesday, April 18, 2012

So are the Gods Universal or Race Specific with links to GW2

So as I was playing Eye of the North it seems that the 6 Gods are only worshipped and celebrated by the human world.

The Norn seem to have animal spirit Bear, Wolf, Raven, etc.

The Charr seem to shun all god after years of being decieved.

The Dwarfs worship the Great Dwarf

And I haven't really gotten far enough into Asura to know what they really worship.

So does that mean that Gods are a manifestation of the power and dominance of the Races or they go to them whoever beleives in them.



In GW2 seeing as how the race of man is seeing some decline does that mean that the human gods will have less power, or are all of the gods the same but the way they manifest themselves is based on the Race.

Anyway if anyone could fil me in or have ideas that would be super.|||Wouldn't the forgotten workship the gods, since the gods made Glint, and the forgotten serve Glint.|||I'm not sure if they worship them, or if they just serve them.|||The Asuras don't worship any god. They believe in Eternal Alchemy, that everything in this world is just part of some large (REALLY LARGE) equation. Even the gods are part of this equation. This is shown in the quest line: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Cipher_of_Melandru|||gah, I cant find it right now but I know that during the norn storyline in eotn the 1 norn mentions that they view the Gods differently to humans will try to find it.|||I believe it was a skaald...

ah, here we go:


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The Norn do not know gods, at least not in the way humans do. But we do revere the spirits of the animals upon whom we depend for food and shelter. There are many such spirits. Bear is the mightiest of course, but Raven, Owl, Wolf, Wurm, and Ox all have their place in the world and in our hearts. While we hunt and slay these creatures, we also praise their spirit, and thank them for their sacrifice. The animals are our brethren; their spirits guide us as we live and hunt.

There are more hostile, even malicious, spirits in the world... spirits of the mountains, seasons, fire, and darkness. The animal spirits are our allies against these foes, and we thank them for their aid, singing the praises of all beasts as we hunt. This is the Norn way.|||Yeah, Asuras believe in Eternal Alechmy. It fits in their racial personalities as well. The gods are just bookahs :) to them... in their minds, hardly anything is higher than an Asura.|||*Warning, spoilers for GW:EN, NF and everything else in GW1*

I think this is an interesting subject, as we don't really know who the "Six True Gods" are.

In real life, if God came from Heaven and made miracles for the Catholics, I think we would know which religion was right But this kind of idea does not work for GW - the Norn receive powers from their spirits, such as the blessing from the Bear; the Charrs got magic from the Titans, even if it was stated that those were not true gods; and the Dwarves did receive the power of the Great Dwarf. All those beings are, in some way, "true"; yet the humans don't believe in any of them.

What about the "human" gods, then? We know they are real - we have met their avatars more than once, and they are the source of our powers. But are they really gods? Isn't mankind in GW making the same mistake some of the other races did, in believing some powerful beings were gods (or anti-gods, in the Great Destroyer) while those were just the minions of more powerful beings?

And about the six gods - are they "gods" for all of Tyria, or just for humanity? We know the gods may be replaced, like Komir did with Abbadon, and Abbadon made to the one before him; how do we know that the gods aren't just human beings who found some powerful source of power, and then claimed domain over mankind?

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I believe it was a skaald...

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thanks so much for that very investigative of you

reall though thanks alot I was scared nobody was going to believe your my saviour

I am not sure if the 6 Gods are only to Humans, if the names of bosses have enough credibility(big sp ) then what would this bosses name imply?

Ssuns, Blessed of Dwayna|||One of the great failings of many fantasy RPG settings is having more than one pantheon yet assuming they all exist.

The problem is, only one set of actor(s) could actually create the world - so if they exist and can manifest to show that existence, which set is it? All the others have to be false.

The only other way to look at it is that they are all manifestations of one actual set - but that still comes back to the same answer. There is only one actual pantheon, and all the various interpretations around the world are merely ways of representing that set.

If the 6 things the humans of the GW world worship are the actual things which created the world, and they can manifest themselves in the world and prove what they are, then there is no room for any other pantheon other than false pantheons that would show up anytime the ability of the actual 6 to manifest is impaired. Otherwise, all creatures would revere the actual six in their own ways.

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