On the other hand, how the hell did Saevio Proelium get back in the RoT?|||Um. It's quite easy. Everything that dies goes somewhere, right? Most humans go to the UW, the greatest hero's go to the HoH, and the biggest criminals and the mis creations of the gods go to...the Realm of Torment.
So the Titans were placed into the Foundry of the Failed Creations by the Gods (after they realized they shouldn't have been created at all), they broke out through Komalie, we kill them and the gods send the spirits of the Titans back to the Realm of Torment. The only way to actually destroy something imo is to kill it while it is in the Mists.|||yeah but knowing demons, they'll know a way into getting back...
so I'm taking that Saevio Proelium was the only titan in Elona? if his tomb is old it could mean that komalie was opned onced before either that or the titans have another way of getting through OR that Saevio Proelium was prginally a human designed by ANET but changed to be a titan boss, which confuses me since titans seemed to only appear in tyria
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yeah but knowing demons, they'll know a way into getting back...
Well..possibly. As long as the Mists exist, there will be demons.
You have to keep in mind that Kormir and her Forgotten are now boss in RoT, and that they are probably spending their time there now slaying demons.|||Quote:
So the Titans were placed into the Foundry of the Failed Creations by the Gods (after they realized they shouldn't have been created at all), they broke out through Komalie, we kill them and the gods send the spirits of the Titans back to the Realm of Torment.
The Gods didn't do a single thing in Prophecies, which means they didn't send the spirits of the Titans back to the Realm of Torment. We closed the Door of Komalie, we cleaned up the remaining Titans, and that was it. Remember that Titans are tortured souls, so when we kill them that's pretty much their end, they're recycled into the Mists.
Saevio Proelium was the only Titan in Elona, captured by the Order of Whispers, and then escaped with the weakening of reality due to Nightfall. It must be kept in mind that Titans did exist on Tyria at one time, but were later (mostly) banished to the Realm of Torment and into the Foundry of Failed Creations.|||Quote:
The Gods didn't do a single thing in Prophecies, which means they didn't send the spirits of the Titans back to the Realm of Torment. We closed the Door of Komalie, we cleaned up the remaining Titans, and that was it.
There is no evidence for this. And it is nowhere mentioned that the Titans were tortured souls. They were created by the Gods (probably by Abbadon) and it was later on decided (probably by the other Gods after Abbadon's defeat) that it had been a mistake to create them. They are a failed creation, hence why they are in the Foundry.
After the Titans escaped through the door of Komalie, you'd expect the Foundry to be totally empty. Yet when we get there in the Realm of Torment it is still stuffed with Titans (and Margonites). Those Titans wouldn't have been there if the Gods wouldn't have send them back to the Foundry.|||No evidence? Be uncertain, double check yourself, it's saved me many a time.
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Inside the Foundry is the Door of Komalie...a passage to the realm of the living. Countless Titans wander these halls. They are sick, twisted creatures formed by tormented souls. The followers of Dhuum have gathered here under the command of The Fury, seeking to gain favor with Mallyx the Unyielding.
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After the Titans escaped through the door of Komalie, you'd expect the Foundry to be totally empty. Yet when we get there in the Realm of Torment it is still stuffed with Titans (and Margonites). Those Titans wouldn't have been there if the Gods wouldn't have send them back to the Foundry.
The thing is, we don't have evidence suggesting that they were ever sent back there.
The only slight evidence that I have in this area is that souls in the Underworld were devoured by some of the monsters there, where do they go after this? While it's not certain, it may be that they are recycled into the Mists. With Titans being tortured souls, that makes it a possibility that this was the case with them.
However, until we get confirmation on what exactly does occur after a soul is destroyed, it's just left up to speculation. You may be right, I may be right, and we may both be wrong. There's no complete certainty in Tyrian afterlife.|||Quote:
Originally Posted by Aurus Trevess, Gate of Anguish
Inside the Foundry is the Door of Komalie...a passage to the realm of the living. Countless Titans wander these halls. They are sick, twisted creatures formed by tormented souls. The followers of Dhuum have gathered here under the command of The Fury, seeking to gain favor with Mallyx the Unyielding.
Formed by tormented souls, not formed from them. Not sure what that means though, but it's certainly something different than being Souls themselves.
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The thing is, we don't have evidence suggesting that they were ever sent back there.
Can you think of any other reason that the Titans would be there again? The Gods have send them there before, makes sense they'd do the same thing again.
EDIT: Apparently Tormented Souls formed them..that means the Gods didn't create them. That's quite new for me too. Wonder what else these Tormented Souls can do if they can create world-conquering armies.|||Well, my point still stands, that we don't really have a clue what happens to souls if they're destroyed. Even if they are an accumulation of them. We don't even know what happens to a Titan's soul after it's destroyed, it could be sent back to the Realm of Torment or it could wander around. The former being more likely, no doubt.
You mentioned again..The thing is, if the Titans we defeated that were released when the Door of Komalie was opened were returned to the Realm of Torment, why do we never see them? I just checked on the wiki to see which bosses were in the Foundry of Failed Creations and in the Gate of Madness mission, none of them are the ones we faced. Unless you count the Armageddon Lords, of course.
It's not that hard to believe that in the years between Prophecies and Nightfall they created even more Titans. The interesting thing is that there were so few released at the end of Prophecies, it seems almost as though it happened too soon and they weren't prepared.
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