Saturday, April 14, 2012

Menzies Discovered?

[:1]I would like to start this topic by introducing myself, seeing as I'm new here.

So hello to all! :)

With that said, I'd like to move toward the reason of me starting this new topic. As the title says, I made a discovery or so I'd like to believe. In other words, I'm not really sure that I discovered anything, it might aswell be my imagination playing tricks on me. But nonetheless I'd like to share it with you and see what your opinion is.

It all started about a week ago when I was admiring one of the more recent artworks made by Anet. I'm referring to the wallpaper that used as a preloader for the Great Temple of Balthazar. It's truly an amazing piece of art. But as I was studying the picture, I noticed something rather strange. It appeared to be a face of some sort. As I was looking more closely, I began to see just how stongly it looked like a face...

Than I thought to myself, "Okay, so I found a face. Perhaps there's body aswell?". And so I used the face as a starting point, and slowly moved lower in search of a body. And guess what... I did. Before I even fully realized it, I had revealed an entire creature hidden within the rocks. I mean, everything was there: a head, an arm, a torso and legs. Ofcourse I couldnt just use the original wallpaper to show you my so called creature, because to many it would just seem like an illusion or my imagination. So I had to clearify the creature so that everyone could see it better. Luckily I master some Photoshop skill, so that wasn't to difficult.

I have posted several pictures in this post, so that all of you can see the "creature" I found. Please, don't judge too soon, because other than the actual creature itself, there are several symbols in the wallpaper aswell that indicate that the creature might actually be there, and that it's not just a product of my imagination.

Picture 1:

In this picture, I simply used Photoshop to 'select' the entire body of the creature, and make it a bit lighter so that it stands out from its background. Note that I have altered absolutely nothing, other than the brightness.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...nchanged-1.jpg

For some of you, this might already be enough to see somewhat of a creature, but I can imagine alot of you will say that it's too vague or something. Well, just for those, I made other pictures aswell. In those, I adjusted not only the brightness, but also the contrast, to give you a clearer difference between all the lines. And besides that, I also altered some of the bodyparts. For instance, I made the lines between the arm and torso, and legs and torso darker, to clearly see the difference between all different bodyparts.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27.../menzies-1.jpg

You can now clearly see a humanoid creature holding a sword in his right hand, and a large shield in his left hand.

And there's one last picture I'd like to share with you. In this picture, I went even further with the 'altering', because there was one thing that didn't fit. In the previous picture, the sword didn't have the right size in proportion to his body. So I enlarged the sword, worked on some tiny things here and there, and gave him an 'outer glow', to really release him from the rocky background. My ladies and gentlemen, I give you "the creature"!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...iesclear-1.jpg

Ofcourse, there is still a possibility that this whole thing is just my imagination, but let's be honest here. Doesn't the creature look just a tad too real to be a coincidence?

Well, I think it does. So than I started wondering to myself, "who is that guy?". It isn't really th�t hard to find if you just look at what's there:

a guy holding a sword and a shield. So we can conclude that we're dealing with a warrior here. The creature is also very big, a statue really, so perhaps the creature is more than just a mortal. A god perhaps? And the creature is placed in a picture together with the god Balthazar, also a warrior and a god. ;)

"Hmm... is there another warrior/god that can be linked to Balthazar?" Menzies.

I strongly believe that the creature hiddin in the rocks is Menzies. Why? Because I believe so in the first place, and secondly, because there are several indications that point in that direction.

Let me start off with the facts: Balthazar is a full-fledged god and is known to be righteous, just and honorable. Menzies is Balthazar's half-brother and is presumably only a halfgod. As opposed to Balthazar, Menzies is known to be injust and ruthless.

1) The sky is is dark and clouded, yet right above Balthazar, the clouds open up and allow the sun to shine on him. This could be to show the righteousness of Balthazar and his strong sense of honour. As opposed to Balthazar,

Menzies appears to be hiding in the shadows. This expresses his malevolent and evil character.

2) When we compare the 2 statues, Menzies appears to be smaller than Balthazar. This could be to show that Menzies is only a half-god, and not a full-fledged god like his brother, Balthazar.

3) The facial expression of Menzies is quite horrific; it depicts him with an open mouth. This could be to give Menzies a more skeleton-like appearance, making his face look like a skull. This would emphasise the fact that he is an evil being. Another possibility is that his open mouth makes it look as if he is screaming in pain. The small people at the bottom seem to be burning Menzies, which would explain his agonizing facial expression.

4) One of the people/creatures at the bottom of the wallpaper has the appearance of one of the shadow army. The shadow army are strongly recognized by the horns coming from their armor. The creature below has a very "horny" appearance. :p

So perhaps they are not burning Menzies, but simply worshipping him. To clearify the possibility of the creature being one of the shadow army, I've also posted a picture below that shows the most prominent similarities. If the creature is indeed one of the shadow army, the people at the bottom of the wallpaper will most likely be worshipping the the hidden creature, making it in all probability Menzies.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...worshipped.jpg

Okay folks, this was my "discovery". I'm hoping that some of you will share my belief, because how cool would it be to finally know what Menzies looks like? I don't know whether or not Anet has intentionally put it in their artwork, but I think there's just too much in this artwork for it to be merely a coincidence.

If you want to see the creature for yourself in its real size, here's a link where you can download the wallpaper in high resolution.

http://guildwars.com/gallery/wallpaper/gw-wp089.php

Please share your thoughts on this, i'd love to read your comments.

- Aeve|||There maybe something indeed but than again it's highly improbable that Menzie or Menzies followers would raise his shrine in the shadow of Balthazar's shrine. As far as i know Menzie would like to take over his brothers role and fights hard for it in fow. Willingly showing his inferiority towards Balthazar is somewhat illogic. Also if he has his own shrines he wouldn't place them anywhere near those of his brother.|||good eye and imagination, but I think you are just seeing faces in the rock|||Fantastic eye for detail, truly. However, i doubt the only depiction of Menzies would be hidden in concept art they would use for a loading screen.

Concept Art loading screens are meant to be art for the places they are loading, and i find it hard to believe there would be followers of Menzies openly worshipping a statue of their dark demigod at Balthazar's HQ.


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Balthazar is a full-fledged god and is known to be righteous, just and honorable.




This is not true- Balthazar is often unjust and petty. It is most obvious in the story of Kaolai:


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When the gods walked Tyria a thousand years ago, the Ritualist Kaolai, an old man even then, challenged Balthazar to a game of Nui in exchange for sparing a village that had offended the god through some long-forgotten breach of etiquette. Balthazar laughingly accepted and the game began. Seven days later it ended with Kaolai the winner; the villagers were spared. But in a fit of anger, Balthazar slew Kaolai. Afterward, in a rare gesture of sportsmanship, the god ordered Kaolai inducted into Tahnnakai Temple.




...but nontheless, your point stands.

It is true that the most prominent figure resembles a member of the Shadow army. HOWEVER, it also closely resembles an Avatar of Balthazar, which has horns in similar places.

Your eye for detail should most certainly be applauded, but i think this holds about as much meaning as seeing Jesus in your soup.|||I've seen that too, and it was the same thing I thought of, although, I have to agree that it may just be faces in the rock that aren't really there.|||I would like to draw your attention to time marker 1:34 in the new preview video. There is a statue of a very Viking-looking man tattooed and holding a sword in an area surrounded by crystals. Not saying he is Menzies/Great Destroyer or anything, but it is curious that he is shown in the part mentioning "great new threats".|||Is this the one you mean?

|||Yup, that's the one.|||nice image.



and as a side note i think the Kaolai story proves why Balthazar is just awesome.|||I wouldn't really say it's actually the case, but the lines on the statues torso like a little like the hazardous material symbol.

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